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Old 02-02-2013, 11:58 AM   #1
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Endurance vs Strength

I keep having the same argument with a friend of mine who thinks that Endurance is more important than Strength (our goal is similar: live a long & healthy/active life - neither of us has the desire to compete at an elite level).

I do strength training 3 times a week.

He runs 3 times a week, and does a bit of circuit-type weights once a week.

We each think the other one is doing it wrong, but I think it probably wouldn't hurt me to add some aerobic activity.

What do you think? Do I need to add some aerobic activity to meet my goal?

Strength training with weights improves the cardio-vascular system, right?
Does aerobic activity (like running) improve cardio-vascular more than strength training? I know I could probably increase my aerobic activity a bit, but I enjoy weights and hate running. I don't mind steady-state cardio walks, maybe I can add one of those every week. Or should I add a short met-con once a week (5-8 mins)?
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:32 PM   #2
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Re: Endurance vs Strength

That is going to depend on your goals/what you are training for.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:56 PM   #3
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That is going to depend on your goals/what you are training for.
Pretty much.

With your overall goal of just being healthy and live long, functional, lives, you want a balance. Both training methods have benefits and both have small drawbacks. Here is a good article to check out:

http://myweb.wwu.edu/~chalmers/PDFs/...20athletes.pdf

While they did not write this with the concept of CrossFit's theory in mind they have a strong argument for both.

While I cannot post Jim Wendler's book 5/3/1, an advanced strength training system, he shows a great value places on conditioning with hill sprints, sled pushes and the like. Check it out if you don't already have it, his blog is also awesome.

CrossFit's goal is to find a balance between their definition of fitness: cardiovascular/respiratory endurance, stamina, strength, flexibility, power, coordination, agility, balance, and accuracy.

One area should compliment another.
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:52 PM   #4
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Re: Endurance vs Strength

I've heard people say that strength training with weights improves the cardio vascular system, I disagree with that. To improve your aerobic ability, I don't think strength training really touches that.

I think that because each of you are saying the other people is wrong, then you're both wrong. You're both in the gym, you're both working hard and trying to improve your fitness level, I don't think either of you are wrong in your training choices.

You enjoy lifting weights, he probably enjoys what he's doing, in my opinion if you enjoy the style of fitness you are doing you are more likely to keep doing it in the long run and therefore sticking to a healthy lifestyle.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:12 PM   #5
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Re: Endurance vs Strength

Watch this and then tell me what you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqiNndr3tG4 (wfs)
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:48 PM   #6
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Re: Endurance vs Strength

Over the course of a lifetime, strength will have more base carryover to most activities than endurance. In our dayd to day activities, how often do we do things over and over for long periods of time? So when you are 80 would you rather have strength or endurance? I'd rather be able to carry my groceries than jog 20 miles.

If you could only train one modality, I would choose strength. Cleary, training strength alone won't get you able to run a marathon, but a intelligently structured strength program would probably allow most people to run a 5-10K without any direct training. I think it would be tough for just training for a 5-10K via endurance would allow you to deadlift 400, if not 300lbs?

But, you don't have to train just one modality. Most balanced programs have 3-4 strength days couples with 2-3, sometimes 4 conditioning days. So with that guideline, your buddies program of 3 x week endurance and one day circuit training would be lacking.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:49 PM   #7
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Re: Endurance vs Strength

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Watch this and then tell me what you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqiNndr3tG4 (wfs)
That dude is used to high rep squats.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbFGdpQD_O0
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:55 AM   #8
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Re: Endurance vs Strength

For the love of God, I hurt watching those. Stop posting such awesome on the forum!
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:26 PM   #9
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Re: Endurance vs Strength

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Our goal is similar: live a long & healthy/active life - neither of us has the desire to compete at an elite level.
Based on this stated goal you are both wrong. You are specializing in strength. He is specializing in aerobic capacity.

Neither one of you is developing a well round fitness.

Read this:

http://library.crossfit.com/free/pdf...al_04_2012.pdf

Mark Sisson (Mark's Daily Apple blog) I believe has written about the "correct" amount of training for optimal health. This would be for people who want to stay healthy during their lives, minimize injury or over use injuries and fitness is not their hobby. Different from most of the CrossFit folks who desire performance.

What most people miss is doing CrossFit 3 or 4 days a week is almost perfect for the goal of long term health. I tell people all the time if your goal is to be healthy get the 3 day a week membership at my gym, fix your diet and do 1 outside activity a week. Team sports, run, bike ride, swimming, yoga, hiking and so on.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:42 PM   #10
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Re: Endurance vs Strength

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That dude is used to high rep squats.

worksafe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbFGdpQD_O0
Amazing. I gotta work on high rep squats once in a while.

Instead of doing a strength workout yesterday, I did a hard core 15 min met-con. Kicked my a**. Liked it. Gonna maybe do 2-3 strength sessions a week, and 1-2 aerobic/met-cons a week.
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