Green tea vs. coffee... - Page 2

David Wood · 01-25-2004, 09:12 AM

Spinach is: cooked? frozen? raw?

I gotta admit, it sounds . . . well, healthy, but like it would take some getting used to the taste.

Dave

Brad Hirakawa · 01-25-2004, 09:30 AM

Berries mask the flavor, a good blender renders the spinach undetectable, and I don't really put coffee in there (that would just be a nasty flavor battle).

:-)

Lynne Pitts · 01-25-2004, 09:32 AM

Roy,
Care to comment on the specific "miracles" 5-HTP worked for you? Thanks!

01-25-2004, 02:25 PM

Lynne,

I have a biological disorder in my central nervous system known as Tourettes Syndrome. It is an abnormal metabolism of seretonin and dopamine, which are needed to complete the "circuit" in the nervous system. With tourettes, one is short on or has NO seretonin at all. This results in motor and verbal tics. However, my TS is not genetic, which is the case in 70-90% of TS patients. Mine were triggered at age 3 when I climbed a cuppboard and got into my brother's ritalin(he had ADD) and I swallowed over 7 pills(its an act of God that I'm alive) This caused severe brain trauma.

5-HTP is a precursor to seretonin, and as long as I take around a total of 4 a day every 3-5 hours, my tics are significantly less, if at all. It is also a natural appetite suppressant. I take lecithin capsules too, since they help support the nervous system as well. I am trying to find research on how TS affects performances in weight lifting and other exercise, but found none. Still searching though!

Cheers

Roy

Lynne Pitts · 01-25-2004, 02:48 PM

Roy,
I'm glad you recovered from your childhood misadventure! I was curious because I'd read about 5-HTP as an appetite supressant, but didn't notice much effect from it. Glad to hear it's helping you though.

It really makes you wonder what the long-term brain effects will be on the "ritalin generation" though.

Thanks!
Lynne

David Wood · 01-25-2004, 03:10 PM

Roy:

If lecithin has helped you (and I can understand why it might), then you should look into trying phosphatidyl choline, or phosphatidyl serine, as supplements.

(Both are found in lecithin, in small quantities. Taking them as supplements boosts their concentration (relative to what you can get from lecithin). The only downside to them (that I know of) is that they are absurdly expensive compared to lecithin.)

As usual, you should do a internet search first, read everything, believe only half of it, and then try it out for yourself first ... it may not work at all (for you), or it may not work well enough to justify what it costs . ..

Dave

Scott Parker · 02-04-2004, 01:19 PM

so how about decaf vs. regular?

any differences between say, decaf green tea and regular green tea as far as antioxidants?

scott

Larry Cook · 02-04-2004, 02:30 PM

scott -- i have found red tea (african rooibos) to be a great naturally caffeine free option ... supposed to be high in polyphenols and flavonoids ... my favorite is good hope vanilla.

larry

01-25-2004, 02:25 PM	#14
Roy Profile: Posts: n/a	Lynne, I have a biological disorder in my central nervous system known as Tourettes Syndrome. It is an abnormal metabolism of seretonin and dopamine, which are needed to complete the "circuit" in the nervous system. With tourettes, one is short on or has NO seretonin at all. This results in motor and verbal tics. However, my TS is not genetic, which is the case in 70-90% of TS patients. Mine were triggered at age 3 when I climbed a cuppboard and got into my brother's ritalin(he had ADD) and I swallowed over 7 pills(its an act of God that I'm alive) This caused severe brain trauma. 5-HTP is a precursor to seretonin, and as long as I take around a total of 4 a day every 3-5 hours, my tics are significantly less, if at all. It is also a natural appetite suppressant. I take lecithin capsules too, since they help support the nervous system as well. I am trying to find research on how TS affects performances in weight lifting and other exercise, but found none. Still searching though! Cheers Roy
Roy Profile: Posts: n/a

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01-25-2004, 09:12 AM	#11
David Wood Moderator Emeritus Profile: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Lebanon NJ Posts: 3,310	Spinach is: cooked? frozen? raw? I gotta admit, it sounds . . . well, healthy, but like it would take some getting used to the taste. Dave

01-25-2004, 09:30 AM	#12
Brad Hirakawa Member Profile: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 762	Berries mask the flavor, a good blender renders the spinach undetectable, and I don't really put coffee in there (that would just be a nasty flavor battle). :-)

01-25-2004, 09:32 AM	#13
Lynne Pitts Administrator Profile: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Richmond NH Posts: 3,118	Roy, Care to comment on the specific "miracles" 5-HTP worked for you? Thanks!

01-25-2004, 02:48 PM	#15
Lynne Pitts Administrator Profile: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Richmond NH Posts: 3,118	Roy, I'm glad you recovered from your childhood misadventure! I was curious because I'd read about 5-HTP as an appetite supressant, but didn't notice much effect from it. Glad to hear it's helping you though. It really makes you wonder what the long-term brain effects will be on the "ritalin generation" though. Thanks! Lynne

01-25-2004, 03:10 PM	#16
David Wood Moderator Emeritus Profile: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Lebanon NJ Posts: 3,310	Roy: If lecithin has helped you (and I can understand why it might), then you should look into trying phosphatidyl choline, or phosphatidyl serine, as supplements. (Both are found in lecithin, in small quantities. Taking them as supplements boosts their concentration (relative to what you can get from lecithin). The only downside to them (that I know of) is that they are absurdly expensive compared to lecithin.) As usual, you should do a internet search first, read everything, believe only half of it, and then try it out for yourself first ... it may not work at all (for you), or it may not work well enough to justify what it costs . .. Dave

02-04-2004, 01:19 PM	#17
Scott Parker Member Profile: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Denver CO Posts: 488	so how about decaf vs. regular? any differences between say, decaf green tea and regular green tea as far as antioxidants? scott

02-04-2004, 02:30 PM	#18
Larry Cook Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cheshire CT Posts: 243	scott -- i have found red tea (african rooibos) to be a great naturally caffeine free option ... supposed to be high in polyphenols and flavonoids ... my favorite is good hope vanilla. larry