Gymnastics Training And Strength Imbalances

Russ Greene · 06-01-2005, 09:20 AM

Great article: http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/320/

I have often noticed that olympic weightlifting tends to pull the torso backwards and gymnastics tends to pull it forwards. Nice how crossfit balances the two forces.

Previously Masquerading As Ross Greenberg.

Brian Gibson · 06-01-2005, 09:57 AM

Cool article. Thanks for posting.

Ron Nelson · 06-01-2005, 01:53 PM

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Russ Greene · 06-01-2005, 02:17 PM

Ron, first you brazenly steal my topic and then you have the gall to insult my integrity. Enough is enough. I challenge you to a duel.

Previously Masquerading as Ross Greenberg

Brendan Melville · 06-01-2005, 03:49 PM

Brilliant article.

"The old saw is wrong. Glory is temporary, pain is forever." Wow, our crew coach would always tell us to "up the pain threshold", because if we'd win the race, the pain would pass, and the glory would last. So true, the inverse.

bill fox · 06-01-2005, 04:14 PM

I hung out with Rif at the RKC cert, man knows his stuff.

Roger Harrell · 06-01-2005, 04:37 PM

For the most part a very good article. He does unfortunately make some drastic claims that are exaggerations of reality. I would say that overall the actual knowledge base in the gymnastics coaching community is lower than it should be considering the demands of the sport, there are a lot of programs out there that balance things out. You can see it in competition. I know very few gymnasts with the nagging lifelong injuries he refers to. And the ones that I do know were more from a catastrophic crash rather than long term improper training.

Ron Nelson · 06-02-2005, 08:48 AM

Roger,
Correct me if I'm wrong (highly likely), but isn't there a greater number of injuries/lifelong maladies in the women's game as opposed to the men's? I read an exhaustive article done by the OC Register where they interviewed elite female gymnasts going back some 20 years and found they suffered more knee, back, and neck injuries than the men. The ratio was unbelievably high against the women IIRC.

Russ/Ross,
Swords at 20 paces; at dawn. BYOG (bring your own gauntlet).
If I'm not there, start without me.

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06-01-2005, 09:20 AM	#1
Russ Greene Departed Profile: Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 637	Great article: http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/320/ I have often noticed that olympic weightlifting tends to pull the torso backwards and gymnastics tends to pull it forwards. Nice how crossfit balances the two forces. Previously Masquerading As Ross Greenberg.

06-01-2005, 09:57 AM	#2
Brian Gibson Member Profile: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Big Stone Gap VA Posts: 424	Cool article. Thanks for posting.

06-01-2005, 01:53 PM	#3
Ron Nelson Banned Profile: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Anaheim CA Posts: 1,199	Now appearing on the Injury Thread: http://www.crossfit.com/discus/messages/27/10657.html Great minds think alike. Even under pseudonyms!

06-01-2005, 02:17 PM	#4
Russ Greene Departed Profile: Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 637	Ron, first you brazenly steal my topic and then you have the gall to insult my integrity. Enough is enough. I challenge you to a duel. Previously Masquerading as Ross Greenberg

06-01-2005, 03:49 PM	#5
Brendan Melville Member Profile: Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Norwalk CT Posts: 454	Brilliant article. "The old saw is wrong. Glory is temporary, pain is forever." Wow, our crew coach would always tell us to "up the pain threshold", because if we'd win the race, the pain would pass, and the glory would last. So true, the inverse.

06-01-2005, 04:14 PM	#6
bill fox Departed Profile: Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 587	I hung out with Rif at the RKC cert, man knows his stuff.

06-01-2005, 04:37 PM	#7
Roger Harrell Affiliate Profile: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: San Rafael CA Posts: 2,318	For the most part a very good article. He does unfortunately make some drastic claims that are exaggerations of reality. I would say that overall the actual knowledge base in the gymnastics coaching community is lower than it should be considering the demands of the sport, there are a lot of programs out there that balance things out. You can see it in competition. I know very few gymnasts with the nagging lifelong injuries he refers to. And the ones that I do know were more from a catastrophic crash rather than long term improper training.

06-02-2005, 08:48 AM	#8
Ron Nelson Banned Profile: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Anaheim CA Posts: 1,199	Roger, Correct me if I'm wrong (highly likely), but isn't there a greater number of injuries/lifelong maladies in the women's game as opposed to the men's? I read an exhaustive article done by the OC Register where they interviewed elite female gymnasts going back some 20 years and found they suffered more knee, back, and neck injuries than the men. The ratio was unbelievably high against the women IIRC. Russ/Ross, Swords at 20 paces; at dawn. BYOG (bring your own gauntlet). If I'm not there, start without me.