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Old 12-17-2007, 11:35 AM   #51
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Re: Clean and Squat Clean - I've got a long way to go

Arden - Not sure if Chris told you or not, but I'm going to FL this March (for the Burgerner Oly Cert as a matter of fact). Anyways, I'm planning on stopping by on the way down/back and choppin something!

I can't watch the videos here at work (blocked) and I'm sure you wanna get your cleans figured before then- but I'll plan on some oly lifts then too. Sound good?
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Old 12-17-2007, 12:56 PM   #52
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Arden - Not sure if Chris told you or not, but I'm going to FL this March (for the Burgerner Oly Cert as a matter of fact). Anyways, I'm planning on stopping by on the way down/back and choppin something!

I can't watch the videos here at work (blocked) and I'm sure you wanna get your cleans figured before then- but I'll plan on some oly lifts then too. Sound good?
Joe,
If you can stop by we'll definitely make a point of getting you in the barn to do something with an axe, saw, or whatever. I need all the help I can get on the oly lifts.

All the best,
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Old 12-17-2007, 01:00 PM   #53
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Re: Clean and Squat Clean - I've got a long way to go

Okay, I just had another session.

I did some silly kettlebell stuff before my cleans, so I was pretty spent going into it. I attempted "tall cleans" for my warms ups. Recorded them all. Went 75x2, 95x2, 115x2, 135x2, 165x2, 185x1. After that I think I did regular squat cleans with 185x2, 225x2, 245x2, then tall cleans with 135x2x3. All I think are recorded.

I'm still missing the third pull bad. I'm not getting full hip extension. I'm going to keep doing this drill until my hips get all the way forward before my elbows bend. Does that make sense? I hope so?

Here's the links to the cleans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyq2qbfI2Bw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCIfEyBD3GE

I think it's this drill that will get me to get full hip extension and keep the bar as close to me as possible. But I noticed on the side view that I'm still doing a little sideways "C."

I really need to drag the bar up my torso, don't I?

I'm all ears. I hope I'm getting a little better?

I know i'm getting frustrated. But I can't let that deter me.

All the best,
Arden
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Old 12-17-2007, 01:11 PM   #54
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Re: Clean and Squat Clean - I've got a long way to go

I think the bearings in that bar have seen better days...
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Old 12-17-2007, 01:25 PM   #55
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I think the bearings in that bar have seen better days...

yeah, you're right about that.

However, I don't dare bring my good bar to the Y to let others abuse. If you know what I mean.

but would that have some impact on me doing my drills? If so, I can probably get them to lock it up for me. It's a york training bar. When I win the lotto, I'm going to buy myself a york or werksan comp bar.

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Old 12-17-2007, 05:50 PM   #56
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Re: Clean and Squat Clean - I've got a long way to go

*ahem* Eleiko...

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Old 12-17-2007, 06:02 PM   #57
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*ahem* Eleiko...

swedish steel
Sorry, you are absolutely correct. Just so you know, Swedes also make some keen axes.

Corrected******When I win the lotto, I'll get sm Eleiko Bar*****


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Old 12-18-2007, 08:13 AM   #58
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Re: Clean and Squat Clean - I've got a long way to go

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Okay, I just had another session.

I did some silly kettlebell stuff before my cleans, so I was pretty spent going into it. I attempted "tall cleans" for my warms ups. Recorded them all. Went 75x2, 95x2, 115x2, 135x2, 165x2, 185x1. After that I think I did regular squat cleans with 185x2, 225x2, 245x2, then tall cleans with 135x2x3. All I think are recorded.

I'm still missing the third pull bad. I'm not getting full hip extension. I'm going to keep doing this drill until my hips get all the way forward before my elbows bend. Does that make sense? I hope so?

Here's the links to the cleans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyq2qbfI2Bw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCIfEyBD3GE

I think it's this drill that will get me to get full hip extension and keep the bar as close to me as possible. But I noticed on the side view that I'm still doing a little sideways "C."

I really need to drag the bar up my torso, don't I?

I'm all ears. I hope I'm getting a little better?

I know i'm getting frustrated. But I can't let that deter me.

All the best,
Arden
Your last few tall cleans looked good in the first link, the tall cleans in the end of your other video not so much.

Shrug and a pull under.

Question: how different is your pulling and receiving stance? It looks like sometimes your feet move wider than other times.

Glad you were able to watch the Catalyst Athletics videos. If you get a chance the Performance Menu articles with Olympic lifting are well worth the read.
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Old 12-18-2007, 08:29 AM   #59
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Re: Clean and Squat Clean - I've got a long way to go

The difference between my pulling and recieving stance, at this stage, is varied. I go a little wider, but not much. Sometimes, I just sort of rotate my toes outward to receive in a toe pointing outward stance.

My background has always had me squatting from different stances every set of every workout I've ever had in my life. The only time I ever used a similar stance was when I was power lifting several moons ago. But even then, I had a second workout during the same week with varied stance position. Just to make sure I didn't instill too much of static pathway or stimulated the muscles differently. If that makes sense?

Should I work more on being more consistent with my foot spacing?

Thanks for pointing out the articles in the performance menu. I'll print those out and read them.

Thanks so much for your time and effort.

All the best,
Arden

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Your last few tall cleans looked good in the first link, the tall cleans in the end of your other video not so much.

Shrug and a pull under.

Question: how different is your pulling and receiving stance? It looks like sometimes your feet move wider than other times.

Glad you were able to watch the Catalyst Athletics videos. If you get a chance the Performance Menu articles with Olympic lifting are well worth the read.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:56 AM   #60
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Should I work more on being more consistent with my foot spacing?
I'd definitely think about it for Oly. Those foot drills that I described a few posts ago can help with that.
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