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Old 08-13-2015, 06:26 AM   #1
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Open letter to CrossFit HQ by Dr Adam Schulte

I apologise if this was already linked, but I did not find it, using the search forum function.

https://www.t-nation.com/powerful-wo...to-crossfit-hq Seems WFS to me as this is a work from Dr., and not the t-nation website, they are only publishing it. Its most likely available on other sources aswel.

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Old 08-13-2015, 06:56 AM   #2
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Re: Open letter to CrossFit HQ by Dr Adam Schulte

It was linked indirectly by Greg Glassman here through the KSI tweet:

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Ironically, while Gatorade’s Korey Stringer Institute was Tweeting on the subject of medical services at The CrossFit Games, I was on Capitol Hill speaking to committee staffers about regular injury and death from EAHE arising from the fraudulent and perverted science spawned by collaboration of Gatorade, and its other institute, the Gatorade Sports Science Institute, and their puppet, the American College of Sports Medicine.

Gatorade/GSSI, and the ACSM are individually and collectively unique in that no other organizations or individuals have caused acute and deadly trauma in athletes with health guidelines. You’d need a gun to do what these “fellows” have done with “science”. (Notice, I said acute. More to follow on their contributions to chronic disease. Here you’d need bombs.)

I have three ideas for the Korey Stringer Institute, and their founding partner, Gatorade. (If anyone from the other founding partner is paying attention, then follow my claim that your partner has needlessly hurt athletes.)

1. Why not rename the institute after one of the football players your founder’s guidelines have killed? Zyrees Oliver, Walker Wilbanks, Patrick Allen, ...

2. Promote the statement of the Third International Exercise-Associated Hyponatremia Consensus Development Conference sponsored by CrossFit, Inc. This has been published by the Clinical Journal of Sports Medicine and The British Journal of Sports Medicine. What came from that conference was an elegant scientific consensus advising to drink when you’re thirsty and don’t when you’re not. Amazing how much work it took to clean up your mess on this single topic.

3. It’s time to look at the role of hyponatremia-induced intracranial pressure on the transmission and propagation of collision energy in football players. Have tainted hydration guidelines been a cause of traumatic brain injury? Let’s be a real institute and do some real science.

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I asked some questions about it, but didn't get any immediate response from HQ. There are two or more sides to every story. I was interested in perspective from the source (HQ) rather than hearsay or speculation from secondary sources, but I may not get that satisfaction.

http://www.board.crossfit.com/showth...=86218&page=23 (wfs)
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:41 AM   #3
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Re: Open letter to CrossFit HQ by Dr Adam Schulte

Adam Shulte has some good points, but he is pushing it too far.

Crossfit games athletes are grown up adults, with coaches, they don’t need baby-sitters.

As elite athletes, they, and their coaches, know a ton about hydration, nutrition, recovery, injury prevention, …

The HQ staff cannot be held responsible for stupid things some athletes can do, or lack of prevention (bad hydration, no sun protection, …).

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Old 08-14-2015, 10:39 AM   #4
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Re: Open letter to CrossFit HQ by Dr Adam Schulte

Kelly Starrett and Brian MacKenzie did a pretty good video on this.
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Old 08-20-2015, 08:39 AM   #5
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Kelly Starrett and Brian MacKenzie did a pretty good video on this.
I watched the video, very good advices from McKenzie to be able to handle hot weather when exercising.
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Old 08-20-2015, 10:35 AM   #6
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Re: Open letter to CrossFit HQ by Dr Adam Schulte

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Kelly Starrett and Brian MacKenzie did a pretty good video on this.
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I watched the video, very good advices from McKenzie to be able to handle hot weather when exercising.
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Old 08-20-2015, 05:41 PM   #7
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Re: Open letter to CrossFit HQ by Dr Adam Schulte

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Adam Shulte has some good points, but he is pushing it too far.

Crossfit games athletes are grown up adults, with coaches, they donít need baby-sitters.

As elite athletes, they, and their coaches, know a ton about hydration, nutrition, recovery, injury prevention, Ö

The HQ staff cannot be held responsible for stupid things some athletes can do, or lack of prevention (bad hydration, no sun protection, Ö).
I agree that Adam Shulte pushes it a little too far, but I do think that HQ could have done more to protect the athletes. Sure, they are grown ups, but they are competitors. They aren't going to back down in the face of a dangerous situation. HQ could have told them to run Murph in a snowsuit and most of them would have done it.

Because of the nature of the competitors it falls largely to the organizer to keep the sport as safe as they can while still testing all the necessary physical attributes and given the reports from some of the competitors I don't think this was being done adequately (that one Emily Abott is pretty startling).
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Old 08-26-2015, 07:09 AM   #8
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http://www.mobilitywod.com/proprevie...ian-mackenzie/
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This is a great video. The Murph event would have looked different if athletes had known and followed the practices suggested here. K Star and Brian McKenzie are knowledgeable members of the CrossFit community. I would love to see this knowledge put out to stay ahead of the problem, rather than a shoulda woulda coulda.

Brian McKenzie: "We've been doing this (cooling techniques in heat event sports) for over a decade. Maybe some things we should have gotten out a little earlier."
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Old 08-26-2015, 09:50 AM   #10
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Re: Open letter to CrossFit HQ by Dr Adam Schulte

Lucky it was not nearly as hot as last year. Was super mild this year plus the soccer stadium is way better than the track.. I think that Castro and HQ do a good job at testing.. sure maybe too far.. but it you show up healthy and prepared for all conditions and situations you will do just fine. If you are not ready you will be exposed. Congrats on the winners!
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