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Old 11-25-2006, 10:21 AM   #1
Neil Ernst
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I've always wondered why the super heavyweight lifters, like Reza Zadeh, seem to have a 'beer gut'. Clearly it isn't a beer gut, but why do they seem to have big bellies? Do they mismatch calorie intake and energy output?

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Old 11-25-2006, 01:03 PM   #2
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"Clearly it isn't a beer gut, but why do they seem to have big bellies?"

OL isn't about aesthetics it's about maximizing strength and power. And it could quite possibly be a beer gut.

"Do they mismatch calorie intake and energy output?"

yeah, pretty much looks like it doesn't it?

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Old 11-25-2006, 02:14 PM   #3
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There's an actual physics explanation. Along with pulling in the back, you are pressuring the abdomen and pushing in the front. For the same pressure the bigger the gut, the more the force.
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Old 11-26-2006, 10:03 PM   #4
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The size of your gut, at least once we get beyond the necessaru size of obliques, TVA, and the like, isn't going to increase possible abdominal pressure. If you notice, it works the same way with powerlifters and throwers- the boys in the unlimited weight classes need muscle mass at all cost, and when you want as much as you can get as fast as possible, fat comes alongs for the ride. You see the scary ripped boys in middleweight classes where they want the largest possible fraction of their weight alotment to be muscle. And yes, throwers don't have weight classes- but decathlons are usually leaner than shotputters-for the same reason- they can't afford fat when they need to lug it around the track.
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:01 AM   #5
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The size of your gut, at least once we get beyond the necessaru size of obliques, TVA, and the like, isn't going to increase possible abdominal pressure.

No, but the size of the gut provides more surface area for the abdominal pressure to work against the rib cage and structures. Force = area x pressure, and bigger gut = more area => more force.

I just finished reading McGill,and he downplays IAP as a lifting aid (although he acknowledges it's benefit for heavy lifters), so I may well be FOS.
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:01 AM   #6
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One metcon workout. Just one. I'd be curious to see how long they last.

Heavy weightlifters I've known can heave the weight that would rip my joints out of socket, but seem to take looooooooong rests between reps.

That being said, they are wicked strong athletes whose work ethic isn't to be dismissed. Just not the kind of fitness I'm after.
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:19 AM   #7
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Wow - Stuart McGill - NOT a light read on biomechanics.

http://www.ahs.uwaterloo.ca/kin/people/StuMcGill.html. One smart boy, 'specially fer a Canadienne.:proud:
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:26 AM   #8
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Fat gain is almost always associated with at least some muscle gain. Superheavies don't mind gaining ten pounds of fat if it means also gaining one pound of muscle.
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:43 AM   #9
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Interesting research on visceral vs. subcutaneous belly fat.


According to a Japanese study, sumo wrestlers have normal levels of cholesterol, triglycerides, and blood sugar in spite of their large size and voluminous rolls of fat.

That’s because they don’t have much visceral fat due to several hours of exercise daily. Thus, sumo wrestlers have a lower incidence of type-2 diabetes compared to sedentary obese people

http://www.tinajuanfitness.info/articles/062805.htm
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Old 11-27-2006, 12:20 PM   #10
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Some good action shots in that link on rezazadeh,Neil.
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