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Old 12-02-2004, 06:34 AM   #11
David Wood
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Pat: Bravo!

Very cool sequence, showing a realisticly achievable "false grip" (not perfect, but better than I can do . . . which is part of why I still can't pull a MU).

Again, bravo!

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Old 12-02-2004, 12:15 PM   #12
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Thanks Pat! Once I got the transition firmed up MUs became a lot easier. I am still just shy of being able to do 10 consecutives; I know I have the strength but as I get tired I become sloppy and my elbows go wide. I then lose it in the transition, not even getting close to being on top of the rings. Not a chance of grunting and struggling for that last rep.

You are doing fantastic! Just keep doing what you are and your numbers will move up.
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Old 12-02-2004, 01:18 PM   #13
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Looks like Pat used a leg 'kip' for the transition, thrusting his legs down as he moved into that critical transition? How many people use a kip for the muscle up?

I don't have a set of rings handy to try these. I tried at the Club Coach course but could not get the hang of that transition. Had enough strength, I'm pretty sure. Wonder if a big kip would have helped, don't think I tried that.
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Old 12-02-2004, 03:54 PM   #14
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I find it's not so much a kip for the transition, in that it's not explosive. I find having the legs forward and bringing them back helps shift the weight so you ro~~~ll into the dip position (either that or dislocate your upper body).

Watch the use of the legs in this clip: Hot-Chick Muscle-up
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Old 12-02-2004, 04:48 PM   #15
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I definitely use a bit of a kip when I'm doing muscle ups. (unless I'm specifically working non-kipping MU). I pull hard while piking a bit, then hop through the transition while the legs drop down. This makes higher reps distinctly more attainable.
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Old 12-02-2004, 04:57 PM   #16
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Interestingly enough, I did not even realise I was kipping until I taped myself. For this reason I'm going to involve the video camera with a bunch of other things (mostly oly lifting, because I know my form sucks).

And you're right Graham, the kip is certainly less *explosive* than when I'm doing pullups for reps. It's seems to be more a way to get the body rolling over the top.

I think for higher numbers I'll just keep practising singles throughout the day; on another day, however, because my pecs are still sore from the WOD yesterday...
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Old 12-03-2004, 12:17 PM   #17
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Way to go, Pat!

My experience with the MU was that, as much as I wanted to try it all the time once I got it, it was best not to go at it constantly and to force myself to back off a bit in order to spare the elbows. YMMV, but I found that I could definitely have overworked the (slow-healing) connective tissue even when I had the strength to complete the movement.

Thanks for posting the photos.
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