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Old 04-27-2010, 11:45 AM   #1
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Raw Milkers - Got a question!

I'm going to start my own share in a dairy cow today that will yield me 2 gallons of raw milk per week. In my family, I drink it plain, my son drinks it w/ ovaltine, but, my daughter likes to have her's heated w/ ovaltine so it's like hot chocolate. She's 4 so trying to reason with her won't really work and I am just happy that I'll be able to sub the store bought whole milk w/ the raw. Anyways, we never heat it more than like 20 - 30 seconds in the microwave so I doubt that it ever gets hotter than 80 or 90 degrees farenheit.

I wonder if it's safe for her to drink it warm like that? I would hate to kill off the things in the milk that make it safe to drink raw. Any advice? Thanks!
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:53 PM   #2
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Re: Raw Milkers - Got a question!

Heres an article from WAP on whether to heat raw milk or not for yogurt, it could help:

https://westonaprice.org/To-Heat-or-...-Question.html

Apparently the enzyme destruction starts at 118 degrees, with complete destruction at 180..
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Old 04-27-2010, 08:32 PM   #3
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Re: Raw Milkers - Got a question!

There is a lot more then just the raw part that makes it great. I am assuming it is coming from grass fed organic cows? Also the fat molecules will be intact and not homelegized (spelling?)
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Old 04-28-2010, 05:28 AM   #4
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Re: Raw Milkers - Got a question!

Ahmed - thanks for the link. I was thinking that 115 degrees was the cut off point but I'll be sure to read it. Really, we just warm it up a little, I'm pretty sure it will be ok.

Also, the dairy farmer is not certified organic but the cows are like 99% grass fed. She said that in the winter it's hard to keep them going so they supplement some w/ a local mix of cracked corn and alfalfa but this year she may try winter grass.

It is VERY good milk, btw! They passed a law here in TN last year that you can't sell raw milk but if you own a cow, you can drink it so, she sells cow shares for 25 bucks a month which gives you 1 gallon per week. That comes to 5 bucks a gallon! WAY better than the organic prices at the store and MUCH better for you!
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Old 04-28-2010, 08:08 PM   #5
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Re: Raw Milkers - Got a question!

That's a pretty awesome deal.

Umm, there is a lot of documentation out there stating that microwaves do all sorts of funky things to food when used for cooking. That might negate a lot of the benefit of drinking it raw.

Warmed up in a pot, might be more ideal nutritionally. Or simply warm up the cup and poor the milk in it and let it set to absorb the heat.
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Old 04-28-2010, 08:16 PM   #6
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Re: Raw Milkers - Got a question!

microwaves destroy nutrients, may as well drink the UHP milk that comes wrapped in tetra-pack...
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:12 PM   #7
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Re: Raw Milkers - Got a question!

That was kind of my point, then again, dealing with a 4yo...I might just wave the milk and be done with it.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:20 AM   #8
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That was kind of my point, then again, dealing with a 4yo...I might just wave the milk and be done with it.
That's what I'm thinking ... we really only zap it for like 20 seconds ...
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:49 AM   #9
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microwaves destroy nutrients, may as well drink the UHP milk that comes wrapped in tetra-pack...
While I agree that microwaving may not be optimal - I'm not sure about the second half of your statement.

IMO - unpasteurized, unhomoegenized from a grass fed cow heated up in the microwave is better than store bought heated up in the microwave.
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