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Old 10-16-2008, 08:25 AM   #11
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Re: Eugene's Birthday Pullup Challenge Approaches

Thanks for having this again. Last year I didn't make my goal, so happy to try again with a new one. Currently 16 is my tops and I'll shoot for 21.

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Old 10-16-2008, 08:28 PM   #12
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I'm in too! Best I've done so far is 20 before my calluses hurt. Will be buying a roll of clmbing tape for this challenge and I'll go for double my previous PB.
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:24 PM   #13
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Re: Eugene's Birthday Pullup Challenge Approaches

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Breathing helped a lot also.
It never ceases to amaze me how well this ancient secret technique
works.

Sometimes though, I suspect it (stopping to do it) keeps my Fran
time over 5 minutes. Too much of a good thing?
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:02 PM   #14
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It never ceases to amaze me how well this ancient secret technique
works.

Sometimes though, I suspect it (stopping to do it) keeps my Fran
time over 5 minutes. Too much of a good thing?
Ha.... ha..... I meant you have to time your breathing or you'll burn yourself out a lot faster. I think it's something I learned from martial arts. During Fran I make sure I take breathes at certain times during thrusters and I don't gas out as quick.
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Old 10-19-2008, 07:37 PM   #15
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Re: Eugene's Birthday Pullup Challenge Approaches

I'm glad you got the humor.

I do find that stopping to take breathes
can get carried away, but if I make little
mental bargains with myself, (i.e., 'ok, stop and take
only three deep breaths and hit it again') I can
push through to a better time, whereas if I just stop
to catch my breath, I'll always take more time than I need.

But I usually just crank through on a single set of pullups,
and when I drop that's it. So now I'm curious, what is the
recommended breathing pattern for a large set of pullups?

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Old 10-19-2008, 08:56 PM   #16
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Re: Eugene's Birthday Pullup Challenge Approaches

Of coach's many memorable lines one that I really like relates to breathing. He brought up the topic saying that many people have been asking about breathing when you workout. Coach said, "I recommend it."

Still there are better and worse times to breathe depending on what you are doing. When you swim for example it is certainly preferable to breathe out when your face is underwater not just because breathing in will severely affect your swim time, but because it allows you more time to breath in when you turn your head to get your mouth out of the water. In the same way when you do swings trying to breathe in during the downswing or when you are all the way forward at the catch when rowing or in any other circumstance when your chest is being compressed and inhalation is difficult you will learn very quickly that timing your breathing is very important.

Timing your breathing during pullups will vary person to person depending on how fast your pullup cycle is and how you do your pullups. If you have that butterfly pullup down or if your cycle time is anywhere near Annie's squirrel on meth sewing machine rate, breathing with each pullup will certainly cause you to hyperventillate. Then again if you struggle for each rep you may take in several breaths per pullup. For those of us in between these two extremes it is my belief that it is not necessary to burn up a lot of brain cells trying to figure out how to do something you have had so much practice with over the years. Unless you are a breath holder and you start getting faint during exercise, you must be breathing OK or you would notice that your vision was starting to narrow. You don't need to sound like you are a recent Le Maz graduate, but if you want to focus on your breathing to take your mind of off how bad max pullup efforts hurt, perhaps you can breath in as you arch your hips forward under the bar to begin your kip and then out when your chin is over the bar.

I guess the short answer is, "Try breathing in at the bottom and out at the top."

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Re: Eugene's Birthday Pullup Challenge Approaches

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Of coach's many memorable lines one that I really like relates to breathing. He brought up the topic saying that many people have been asking about breathing when you workout. Coach said, "I recommend it."
That had be laughing......Great quote!
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:47 PM   #18
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When I do pullups or anything else for high reps I usually breathe and do the exercise in rhythem. I found I could do more pushups and stuff that way. I think it depends on the person but I try to take one breath on the way down and one on the way up for pullups. Depends on the exercise also. I guess it might be a find what works for you thing, but I've found that it helps a lot. Basically I controlled my breathing to make sure that my muscles had enough oxygen and I didn't get excited and gas myself out, hold my breath, stop, or something like that. I don't know if any science backs that up

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found an article

http://www.dragondoor.com/cgi-bin/ar...3&articleid=72

KB breathing ladders

"As you will rapidly discover, the way to survive is to slow your breath down as much as possible, to get maximum air and to increase your rest period between each set. If you panic and breathe quickly, your rest period is decreased and you are quickly dispatched to the dustbin of history. On the other hand, the only "timing" involved is your breath -- and the idea is to "cheat" as much as possible by drawing out the breaths and increasing the rest periods."

"The results of this training have been tremendous for me. When I teach my 45-minute kettlebell classes, I often do the workout with the students, not only doing the work, but instructing (and occasionally bellowing at) them as well, and never breathing hard."

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Old 11-30-2008, 08:57 AM   #19
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Re: Eugene's Birthday Pullup Challenge Approaches

Belatedly, Happy Birthday. Did this on the 26th and got a pr of 19 but shy of 21 goal.
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:08 PM   #20
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Re: Eugene's Birthday Pullup Challenge Approaches

Back off vacation to post this...Happy Birthday Eugene!

I surprised myself with 40, and the stoppage was mental -
my body was screaming but hadn't quit, I just told myself
I couldn't take it anymore, and I belived the lie.

Anyway, it's encouragement to try for 49 on April 29, 2009.
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