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Old 01-22-2012, 12:46 PM   #1
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280 lb Clean Fails

280 lb Clean Failtaculars

Been a while since I've posted anything in here for feedback.

Anyone have any advice with how the heck I can stand up with this weight here.
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Old 01-22-2012, 01:02 PM   #2
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Re: 280 lb Clean Fails

What's your front squat max?

Your form looked decent to my not hugely expert eye; it just looked like the weight was too heavy.

It might help to think about driving your elbows up and your knees out on the recovery. Maybe a slightly wider stance on the catch.

Do you have video of heavy cleans that you made, maybe at 260 or so?

For the longer term, front squats and pause front squats (pause at the bottom).

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Old 01-22-2012, 01:08 PM   #3
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Re: 280 lb Clean Fails

haha dude I have been there.....

That second rep on 280 was so damn close.

Upper back accessory work, hi-bar/front squatting....

You know all this though....just gonna be one of those lifts you nail one day.
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Old 01-22-2012, 02:02 PM   #4
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Re: 280 lb Clean Fails

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What's your front squat max?
Last time I tested back in August it was 330, hence my frustration on not being able to stand up with the first few reps here.

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haha dude I have been there.....

That second rep on 280 was so damn close.

Upper back accessory work, hi-bar/front squatting....

You know all this though....just gonna be one of those lifts you nail one day.
Sitting here in retrospect I wonder if I'd have made that second rep had I descended back down and tried to bounce it back up rather than just trying to battle through that big sticking point.

Going to start front squatting weekly again (because given my 1RM this should not happen, ever), but any recommendations on the upper back work?
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Old 01-22-2012, 02:06 PM   #5
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Re: 280 lb Clean Fails

I wouldn't recommend that many fails. Once you get pinned due to weight, it's a sign you need more strength.

That second attempt was by far your best. Maybe a little better bounce out of the hole and you would have gotten it, but regardless you need to focus on increasing your squat to be able to drive it up. All the attempts after the 2nd got progressively worse. It's an injury waiting to happen.

I've heard coaches say when you fail due to a technique issue you can continue to try, as long as you are improving the issue. However, if it's a strength issue, no more attempts and more squatting.
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Old 01-22-2012, 02:12 PM   #6
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Re: 280 lb Clean Fails

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Do you have video of heavy cleans that you made, maybe at 260 or so?
275 lb Clean

Video of my current PR of 275 from about two months ago.

270 Clean and Jerk

Clean and Jerk PR from about the same time frame, maybe two weeks prior to the clean.
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Old 01-22-2012, 05:10 PM   #7
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Sitting here in retrospect I wonder if I'd have made that second rep had I descended back down and tried to bounce it back up rather than just trying to battle through that big sticking point.
In competition, it's a failed lift once you go back down...

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Old 01-22-2012, 05:11 PM   #8
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Re: 280 lb Clean Fails

First couple of lifts it looked like you didn't finish the extension on the pull. That left the bar out in front a bit on both lifts which is why you couldn't stand with it. Third lift you jumped back but didn't bring the bar with you. The other lifts looked like you spent too much time trying to pull the bar up (because the bar speed was not good) and didn't start the pull under soon enough.

Plus it looked heavy. That happens sometimes!

I'm not sure you finished the pull on the 275 pr either.

That's what I saw.
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Old 01-22-2012, 05:15 PM   #9
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Re: 280 lb Clean Fails

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275 lb Clean

Video of my current PR of 275 from about two months ago.

270 Clean and Jerk

Clean and Jerk PR from about the same time frame, maybe two weeks prior to the clean.
Those look solid. Maybe a tiny bit forward on the catch, especially on the one at 270.

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Old 01-23-2012, 04:02 AM   #10
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Re: 280 lb Clean Fails

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In competition, it's a failed lift once you go back down...

Katherine
Is that true? I've seen videos of Kolecki bouncing an extra time to stand up, and his lifts were given.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1dRq5no1eg (WFS)

Also at the 2008 Olympics, he bounced about 5 times to get up with 228kg (he failed), but if going back down to get another bounce was illegal I don't think he would have tried.
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