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Old 04-26-2007, 04:57 AM   #1
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Read this on Slate Magazine yesterday. Thought it informative.

Article is w/f safe, except it does talk about libido, but no explicit terms or profanity.

http://www.slate.com/id/2164436/entry/2164437/
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Old 04-26-2007, 05:40 AM   #2
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That's scary reading, especially the guy who lost 7 inches of height through osteoporosis...
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:02 AM   #3
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Very interesting and disturbing article. Here's another interesting related article from Clarence Bass w/f safe http://www.cbass.com/LeannessCancer.htm Looks at the effect of calorie intake on cancer the conclusion “[The results suggest] that excess calorie retention, rather than consumption, confers cancer risk.”
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Old 04-28-2007, 07:18 PM   #4
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That article is biased to the max.

First, it is written by someone who had anorexia; this is a bias, not a qualification.

Second, she interviewed only 5 people, out of which she only talked of 3. The others probably didnt have dirt.

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'Remarkably, no one from the eating disorders field has stepped forward to explain what the difference between calorie restriction and anorexia might be.'

Um, yeah...Health. People who do calorie restriction responsibly are very healthy. Think about the articles that could be written on how the olympic lifts are bad for you. This guy injured himself! He was doing it because he was obsessed with his looks or stats, etc. Proper calorie restriction has extensive scientific data to back it up. I can easily see people who do have an eating disorder hiding under the guise of calorie restriction as an easy out. Calorie restriction is not 'starvation', because they are getting optimum nutrition. The are extending their lives, not ruining them.

Calorie restriction is better on your biomarkers than being optimally fit. Here are two scientific presentations on it:

http://www.edmontonagingsymposium.com/files/eas/presentations/08-Luigi_Fontana.w mv

http://www.edmontonagingsymposium.co...uss_Hepple.wmv

The article amounts to sensationalist writing about something that is obviously taboo to most. Easy target. Just plain wrong, though.


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Old 04-29-2007, 12:03 AM   #5
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First, it is written by someone who had anorexia; this is a bias, not a qualification

Bias and qualification aren't mutually exclusive. Someone who has had an eating disorder can identify an eating disorder in others. She makes a good case that many of the people who are practicing calorie restriction are not doing it for health. They're doing it in response to emotional problems which are not going to be resolved through calorie restriction. They over do it an wind up with not only unresolved emotional problems but physical problems too.

Sure she has a little bit of a bias having suffered form not eating. But it isn't as if she has a financial stake in her conclusion which is very common when you visit sites such as Weston Price, Mercola, and many others that don't need to be named.

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Old 04-29-2007, 09:02 AM   #6
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I know quite a few people on calorie restriction, and all of them do not have the problems that she mentions. Although, the way she portrays it, the whole category of calorie restriction should be considered an eating disorder.

She screened for people with problems, it was the focus of her article. If you did that in a scientific paper, the conclusions would be tossed aside as rubbish pretty quickly. Unless, the conclusion was that there are some who are practicing calorie restriction that fall under the category of eating disorder, not that calorie restriction is an eating disorder.

For example, the guy who said he 'took it too far' should have been excluded from the group entirely, because he did not follow the prescribed regimen. This would be similar to someone doing heave squats with a rounded back. Then when they get injured, saying that squats are bad for you.
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