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Old 12-08-2005, 03:02 PM   #1
Roger Smith
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I saw this over at DD and was curious about the responses here. I think there was a wod, but not sure the weights involved. Question:

"Pre-World War 2 strongman and bodybuilder Sig Klein claimed that very few men could clean-and-press a pair of 75 pound dumbbells 12 reps. One for tradition, I was wondering who among you can clean-and-press a pair of 32kg kettlebells for 12 reps."

I don't really have any idea if I could. But I think I found a goal for the new year.

Sorry if i posted in the wrong place...
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:18 PM   #2
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Push press allowed? Long or short cycle?
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:44 PM   #3
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Good question, but I don't know the answer. The question may have originaled here:

http://brookskubik.com/tip11.html

Many years ago, noted strongman and gym owner Sig Klein penned an article in Strength & Health about the "secret" exercise used by the old time European strongmen. Klein rose to fame in the teens and twenties, set a number of remarkable records in a variety of lifts, and remained active as a lifter and muscle display expert for many years. He married the daughter of Prof. Attilla, who trained Sandow, and he knew many or all of the oldtimers on a personal level. Hence, his insights are entitled to significant weight.

What was the "secret" exercise?

The repetition clean and press with a pair of heavy dumbbells. How heavy?

Klein suggested a goal of 75 pounders, for a dozen consecutive reps. And he noted that only a handful of men in North America would be able to meet that standard.

So if you are looking for a new twist to put some spark back into your training, give the two dumbbell clean and press a try. And if you find yourself getting bigger, stronger and thicker throughout the entire body, don't blame me--blame Sig Klein!
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:09 PM   #4
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I am Going to talk to max(cave man) tonight and see if he can do this. I have a very good feeling that he can. I will post tomarrow after I get him to try it.
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Old 12-08-2005, 07:56 PM   #5
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Hey Skipp - film it for us!

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Old 12-09-2005, 07:35 AM   #6
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So this would be like cleaning and pressing 150lbs with a regular bar. Except of course that you will need more stability with the dumbbells. I admit that this wouldn't be easy in any sense... but I bet it would be doable with much heavier weights if one trained for it.

But what he really is saying here that the best way to get in shape/bulk up is to use complex muscle motions. Ones that mimic olympic lifting. Another point against the isolation crowd...
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Old 12-09-2005, 07:46 AM   #7
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I wanted to try and just barely got 12 reps with big time push press, almost jerk, on the last few reps. I sure this would not have counted. Much more difficult than with bar, because I could not rest it in the rack position.

I will bet that he meant clean and real press with no dip, or it would have been listed as push press. I am pretty far away from that.

I though it would be no problem because I can knock out quite a few HSPU but, Much longer ROM than with HSPU

I can do it with the 50 lbs dbs...
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Old 12-10-2005, 08:11 PM   #8
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I got sets of clean and press with locked knees
55x12
60x12
65x8 (+4 clean&push-press)
70x3,3,3,3
strength limited not wind, although I was breathing hard, but not compared to a real wod
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:08 PM   #9
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Craig do you HSPU on higher parallettes or rings so you can go shoulders to bar/rings. Then it's the same ROM.

I think I might be able to pull this off. I don't have two 75 lb anything that would work though :-p. 12 ring HSPU where you must go shoulders to rings is probably harder. (assuming you're not climbing the cables).
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:23 AM   #10
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Roger, Mike Mahler does some impressive lifts with heavy kettlebells.
You can link to his website from CrossFit Gulf Coast.
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