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Old 02-14-2008, 07:20 PM   #1
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"What's an active shoulder?"

Been wanting to do this for a little while...

Note how the active position can be almost any scapular location -- anterior, posterior, superior, or inferior. The point is that the shoulders be engaged AWAY from the load, letting the muscles rather than the joint take the bulk of the stress. Look at the direction the load is coming from and draw an arrow the opposite way -- that's where your shoulders are going!

Not everyone agrees about retracting the scapulae in the deadlift, by the way.

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Old 02-14-2008, 10:02 PM   #2
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Re: "What's an active shoulder?"

Pssh you didn't show it in any type of rowing position (namely inverted rows).

Excellent resource though.

I generally like to say pulling you try to pull the joint into the socket while pushing you're trying to push it as far away as possible (as you know).
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:05 AM   #3
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Re: "What's an active shoulder?"

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Pssh you didn't show it in any type of rowing position (namely inverted rows).
You seriously see this kind of thing so rarely...
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:57 AM   #4
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Re: "What's an active shoulder?"

"Joseph,
I believe the basic concept of the "active shoulder" is to do the opposite of what the resistance is trying to do to your shoulder if you relaxed it. It's not just an up and down thing, it's also a forward-protracted/backward-retracted thing."

As posted by Garret Smith, I think this is a pretty straight forward way of thinking about what an active shoulder is. I have always had trouble grasping the concept for some reason.

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Old 02-26-2008, 02:59 PM   #5
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Re: "What's an active shoulder?"

Nice post, Brandon! I forsee this one getting linked A LOT.
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Old 02-26-2008, 08:32 PM   #6
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Re: "What's an active shoulder?"

In dips, should the scapula be retracted? Maybe not an issue to some people, but my scapula doesn't tolerate crappy form very well.
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:54 PM   #7
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Re: "What's an active shoulder?"

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In dips, should the scapula be retracted? Maybe not an issue to some people, but my scapula doesn't tolerate crappy form very well.
No, the should be protracted because that is the active shoulder position (to keep it from being jammed up against the acromion).

That's why I generally say pushing stuff you want the scapulae to be protracted and elevated.
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:45 AM   #8
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Re: "What's an active shoulder?"

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In dips, should the scapula be retracted? Maybe not an issue to some people, but my scapula doesn't tolerate crappy form very well.
As pictured, the shoulders should push down.
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:04 AM   #9
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Re: "What's an active shoulder?"

Thank you for this thread. This clarification is a big help!
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:30 AM   #10
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Re: "What's an active shoulder?"

Nice thread, Brandon. It also appears that relaxed shoulders make you bored when doing dips.
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