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Old 12-10-2007, 02:37 AM   #1
haggai bonneau
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Muscle ups and bad shoulders ?

hello crossfit

that's my first post here...


well i can do some muscle ups but i have heard that doing them with high volume can hurt the shoulders

is that true ? and if it does, how (ex: tore the rotator cuff...)

hmm one more thing, if its possible to do lots of muscle ups i thought to use it 2 times a week on high volume to build (gain some size) my whole upper body maybe with some handstand pushups (combined with lots of good food and sleep)

what do you think?

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Old 12-10-2007, 05:00 AM   #2
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Re: Muscle ups and bad shoulders ?

The guy over at Beast Skills (great site for muscle up tutorials) mentions that the bottom position of the dip can be hard on the shoulders for some people (and that's my personal experience). I have a feeling this is one of those things that's going to be different for everyone...seems like the difficulty of the movement is going to make it hard for most people to do "high volume" anyway.
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Old 12-10-2007, 08:52 AM   #3
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Re: Muscle ups and bad shoulders ?

Glad you posted. If we take care of our shoulders, our shoulders will take care of us. I believe that it's better to be conservative and kind to them. High volume sounds like increased risk to me. I'm negotiating the dips, and working my way to doing one muscle-up while caring for my shoulders. You might want to read some posts about impingement on this site, also.
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:05 AM   #4
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Re: Muscle ups and bad shoulders ?

If you're concerned, don't push it.

When I first started doing muscleups, after 3 - 4 my wrists, elbows and shoulders would really start to take a beating.

I backed off on practicing them, continued doing them every once in a while and just worked on pullups and dips. A few weeks ago I did the 30 muslceups for time in under 10 minutes with very little pain/discomfort. (the first time I attempted this workout, in August, I had to stop at the 6th rep due to wrist/shoulder pain)

So I suggest taking it slow at first, every once in a while test yourself to see where you are with them, and push yourself accordingly.
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:46 AM   #5
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Re: Muscle ups and bad shoulders ?

muscle ups can be very hard on shoulders and elbows. If an individual is not strong enough, or their technique isn't in place (or they are simply very fatigued) injuries can occur. "golfers elbow" can be instigated or aggrevated by muscle ups, shoulder strains/tears can occur, there have been instances of dislocated shoulders from muscle ups. Just be sure you drill the build up well. Work your technique, and don't over do it when you first make them.
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:11 PM   #6
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Re: Muscle ups and bad shoulders ?

If you can combine workouts with specific work on your RC muscles that are still weak your shoulders will probably acclimate faster.
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:19 PM   #7
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Re: Muscle ups and bad shoulders ?

Kind of going out on a limb here, but I'd say that since shoulders pulled/pushed down is correct in pullups and dips, that's how it should be for the whole movement.

Confirmation, Steven?

That having been said, I haven't had a lot of trouble from muscle-ups yet.
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:21 PM   #8
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Re: Muscle ups and bad shoulders ?

Yep. Maintaining active shoulders helps A LOT. Good call.

And that's cause you're light Derek... I'm sure elbows would bother a 200 lbs person MU more than 115 lbs.
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:02 PM   #9
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Re: Muscle ups and bad shoulders ?

thanks guy

i think im going to start with month or two of

weighted chins and dips + shoulders bodybuilding routine from 7 min rotator cuff sulotion (delts+RC)
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