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Old 07-30-2010, 08:59 PM   #21
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Re: 2010 Games effect on 2011 sectionals/regionals

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Muscle-ups, ring handstand pushups, wall climbs... as opposed to the 1 RM lifts and endurance running we saw last year.
Pistols might even fall into that category.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:06 PM   #22
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Muscle-ups, ring handstand pushups, wall climbs... as opposed to the 1 RM lifts and endurance running we saw last year.

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I wouldn't consider muscle-ups or ring handstand push-ups high skill movements. Any elite crossfitter shouldn't have a problem with those. And as seen in the games, it wasn't skill that was troubling them, it was just plain being tired. And wall climbs? I really have to disagree.

If anything the 1 RM snatch from last year would be considered a high skill movement. It takes waaaay more skill to snatch 200lbs+ than it does to do muscle-ups or ring handstand push-ups (IMO). Yes, I understand there is some skill involved, but once you understand the basic technique, with a strong kip and plenty of strength, they are fairly easy (MU's). If they were no-touching-straps or balancing HSPU's on the ground it would be a different story...

Pistols I would consider more of a flexibility issue. If you have the strength and flexibility, they really aren't that hard to do.

I don't mean to be offensive, just stating my opinion.

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Old 07-30-2010, 10:25 PM   #23
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Re: 2010 Games effect on 2011 sectionals/regionals

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I wouldn't consider muscle-ups or ring handstand push-ups high skill movements. Any elite crossfitter shouldn't have a problem with those. And as seen in the games, it wasn't skill that was troubling them, it was just plain being tired. And wall climbs? I really have to disagree.
Whether or not an elite crossfitter "should" have a problem with those movements, some clearly did.

In any case, I don't want to argue about whether those are "skill" movements or not, just pointing out that those are the movements people have in mind when they're talking about a "skill bias" or "gymnastics bias" in this year's Games.

Again, all being relative to last year's perceived strength bias.

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Whether or not an elite crossfitter "should" have a problem with those movements, some clearly did.

In any case, I don't want to argue about whether those are "skill" movements or not, just pointing out that those are the movements people have in mind when they're talking about a "skill bias" or "gymnastics bias" in this year's Games.

Again, all being relative to last year's perceived strength bias.

Katherine
Ok, I understand. Sorry if it came of like I was arguing. I really liked the events this year. They seemed more well-rounded than the games in the past.

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