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Old 01-13-2008, 12:50 PM   #11
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Re: $200 prize one arm bar hang

Hook grip. Got ya. I don't use a hook grip.
I use thumbless, but maybe there is a way near the end to swtich to hook grip when one gets tired and it may add a few seconds. These tendons in the forearm are primarily meant for short duration and the muschles are fast twich, that is what makes this difficult. You may feel great at 70 seconds then all of a sudden, it its you and 5 seconds later your are falling off the bar
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:02 PM   #12
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Re: $200 prize one arm bar hang

Rotating will kill you in this attempt. It is important to stay as straight as possible, to lessen the torque on the grip. If hook grip helps then by all means employ it.
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:16 PM   #13
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Hook grip doesn't actually give you any extra grip... for Oly it's only to stop the bar from rotating.
Buh wha huh?
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:20 PM   #14
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:37 PM   #15
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Re: $200 prize one arm bar hang

I think Steve meant to keep your ARM from rotating not the bar.
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:48 PM   #16
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Re: $200 prize one arm bar hang

In oly lifts, the bar (part that you're holding) should not be twisting around in your hands. There's a reason the ends spin. It keeps you from dealing with the torque from a heavy weight (which believe me, does not feel good).
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Old 01-13-2008, 04:48 PM   #17
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In oly lifts, the bar (part that you're holding) should not be twisting around in your hands. There's a reason the ends spin. It keeps you from dealing with the torque from a heavy weight (which believe me, does not feel good).
^^^

As you rotate under the bar, it gives you a more 'secure' grip so that your hands don't slip as you come under it. It does not give any extra grip strength or anything.

If you have any more questions or are still confused, ask Greg Everett.
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Old 01-13-2008, 04:53 PM   #18
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Re: $200 prize one arm bar hang

In reply to Derek. I know what you mean. The exception however is when you are doing a one finger each hand dead lift. I looked up the record for my weight class it was only 145lbs, and I did 135 in the gym on a bar that did not spin, and on a rotating bar I couldn't do it because it spins out of your fingers. Anyway I think we are a bit off the subject, but if folks are out there trying this one arm hang from a suspended olympic bar that has rotation in it, good luck, not sure if it is harder or not.
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:07 PM   #19
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Re: $200 prize one arm bar hang

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^^^

As you rotate under the bar, it gives you a more 'secure' grip so that your hands don't slip as you come under it. It does not give any extra grip strength or anything.

If you have any more questions or are still confused, ask Greg Everett.
Starting Strenth, 2nd Ed., Pg. 180, "In the hook grip, the friction between the thumbnail and the middle finger provides a tremendous amount of security, enabling the forearm muscles to relax and thus enabling the elbows to rotate faster when the bar is racked."

So the hook grip is just as secure, but it relies on your forearms less, is what I take from this.
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:10 PM   #20
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Re: $200 prize one arm bar hang

It can be as thin of a bar as you want, I assume?
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