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Old 03-21-2014, 10:40 AM   #21
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No one has a problem with a company selling products for a profit, the issue with MLM is that it is a pyramid scheme that takes advantage of people. Just a slimy type of business.
I understand this arguement (which is why I don't sell it) but all big business is a pyramid scheme. Just isn't called such, I suppose, because they aren't sneaky about it. That's why I don't see the issue AS LONG as your client understands it is what it is.
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Old 03-21-2014, 10:51 AM   #22
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I understand this arguement (which is why I don't sell it) but all big business is a pyramid scheme. Just isn't called such, I suppose, because they aren't sneaky about it. That's why I don't see the issue AS LONG as your client understands it is what it is.
A retailer/wholesaler arrangement is nothing like an MLM scheme, and just because Target or GNC or Nike has centralized headquarters then distributors/sales reps/retailers spread out across the world does not mean that "all big business is a pyramid scheme."
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Old 03-21-2014, 10:58 AM   #23
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I understand this arguement (which is why I don't sell it) but all big business is a pyramid scheme. Just isn't called such, I suppose, because they aren't sneaky about it. That's why I don't see the issue AS LONG as your client understands it is what it is.
Not at all. Have you ever looked into MLM and how it works?
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:00 AM   #24
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I guess I disagree. Or perhaps I misundstand the term in question. My point is that early adopters/high ranking officials in any business make money because of what people "lower than them" do/sell. I understand this happens in a contrived way with the supplement company the topic is about and in more organic ways if you are Phil Knight or Bill Bowerman.

I was simply playing "devil's advocate". I don't like the idea (or more importantly) the products of the company. So I'll withdraw and let you guys argue with the folks who actually make money from the company.

PS- I think At Large makes quality stuff at a great price point. So there is my plug.
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I guess I disagree. Or perhaps I misundstand the term in question. My point is that early adopters/high ranking officials in any business make money because of what people "lower than them" do/sell. I understand this happens in a contrived way with the supplement company the topic is about and in more organic ways if you are Phil Knight or Bill Bowerman.

I was simply playing "devil's advocate". I don't like the idea (or more importantly) the products of the company. So I'll withdraw and let you guys argue with the folks who actually make money from the company.

PS- I think At Large makes quality stuff at a great price point. So there is my plug.
The part in bold doesn't make something a pyramid scheme--it's called "capitalism."

Read this (WFS) if you didn't when I posted it before.
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:13 AM   #26
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The part in bold doesn't make something a pyramid scheme--it's called "capitalism."

Read this (WFS) if you didn't when I posted it before.
Read it. I agree if they aren't demonstrating profits of product sales than the company isn't really a supplement company at all. This would suck for people low on the ladder but the retail customer doesn't seem hurt (other than paying a premium for a non premium product) by this. But the article illuminated some interesting points. It seems like the equivalent of cheap overseas labor (where the lower "business" people are screwed).
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:26 AM   #27
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I have said my 2 cents and now I will just agree to disagree and we can all just keep crossfitting!
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:38 AM   #28
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If he doesn't get paid for an endorsement then he is doing it wrong. Also, I would never give the time of day to any MLM company, even if their products are decent it is a sketchy business model and there are plenty of respectful companies out there.
tell us more about how you dont buy products from any other company that engages in ****ty and exploitive practices
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:43 AM   #29
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Hasn't Spark been shown as an ineffective product? I thought I read a couple different places that it was essentially sugar water with a dose of caffeine.
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Hasn't Spark been shown as an ineffective product? I thought I read a couple different places that it was essentially sugar water with a dose of caffeine.
Advo-cates have recently appeared at my gym as well. They're lovely people and dedicated athletes, but I can't wrap my mind around their passionate devotion to these products. I looked at the ingredients list to Spark (I should note that the company is also very secretive about their ingredients)... but it loos like primarily caffeine and sugar.
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