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Old 06-09-2009, 07:01 PM   #11
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Re: Difference between DL'ing and Olympic lifting?

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Holy crap.... have you got any good links/ videos that show and explain double knee bend?! ;-)
The double knee bend is not something you want to "teach" it should happen naturally if you're performing 1st and 2nd pulls correctly. But, here is Greg Everett explaining it (wfs): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2scWsJ5D4U
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Old 06-10-2009, 01:13 AM   #13
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Re: Difference between DL'ing and Olympic lifting?

Veronica and Greg - thank you - those links were awesome -

Esp the Greg Everett Youtube clip - bloody brilliant!

The more I learn the less I understand...

Would the double knee bend explain why sometimes I'll watch someone Sn or Clean and it looks as if the bar has 'bounced' off the upper thighs?

Sorry for my crude explanations... guess its a little more tricky via the keyboard
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Re: Difference between DL'ing and Olympic lifting?

One more question.. (thank you for still listening

When power cleaning and power snatching do you still want to be in the same starting back angle as the squat version of both?

The answer to this maybe even more of a break through for me!!!!
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Old 06-10-2009, 06:23 AM   #15
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Re: Difference between DL'ing and Olympic lifting?

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Brilliant! Thanks for posting that Greg. I enjoyed it and it will definitely help me!

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Re: Difference between DL'ing and Olympic lifting?

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One more question.. (thank you for still listening

When power cleaning and power snatching do you still want to be in the same starting back angle as the squat version of both?

The answer to this maybe even more of a break through for me!!!!
Yes, same starting position--the "power" modifier just means you catch it in a 1/4 or 1/2 squat. Still comes off the floor the same way for the first pull.
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Would the double knee bend explain why sometimes I'll watch someone Sn or Clean and it looks as if the bar has 'bounced' off the upper thighs?
nope. a correct lift with dkb will encourage the bar to "slide" up the thighs/hips. actual banging/bouncing/bumping is a common symptom of a high-hipped/DL-style start (i think that's explained in the above link, so i won't repeat it here). plenty of people bang the bar off the thighs and hips - some because that's how they've been taught (regrettably) and some because they're attempting to imitate what they think they're seeing (same reason it gets taught this way as well). if someone is lifting well, it can still look like a bang because of the violence of the change of direction at the top - but slow a video down and you'll see what's actually happening (assuming it's a video of a technically proficient weightlifter).
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Re: Difference between DL'ing and Olympic lifting?

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nope. a correct lift with dkb will encourage the bar to "slide" up the thighs/hips. actual banging/bouncing/bumping is a common symptom of a high-hipped/DL-style start (i think that's explained in the above link, so i won't repeat it here). plenty of people bang the bar off the thighs and hips - some because that's how they've been taught (regrettably) and some because they're attempting to imitate what they think they're seeing (same reason it gets taught this way as well). if someone is lifting well, it can still look like a bang because of the violence of the change of direction at the top - but slow a video down and you'll see what's actually happening (assuming it's a video of a technically proficient weightlifter).
Not that I want to start a dispute, but I'm sure you know Rip teaches the thigh touch on the pwr clean...is there a way to reconcile his advice and yours?
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Not that I want to start a dispute, but I'm sure you know Rip teaches the thigh touch on the pwr clean...is there a way to reconcile his advice and yours?
It should touch - but touching is not bumping.
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Re: Difference between DL'ing and Olympic lifting?

Thank you Eric and Greg - that is super helpfull info!

I understand what you mean about the 'appearance' of a bounce, when really it is the rapid change in direction- that makes a lot of sense.

Seen quite a few vids of people perhaps copying what they 'think' is the bounce -

Eric - thank you for the comment about starting position for Power Clean/Snatch. My thought about that was in reference to lower weight, higher rep CF WODS - I guess its just practice to make that starting position natural and instinctive when recylcing into the next rep?
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