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Old 11-28-2008, 04:50 AM   #41
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Re: Women's self defense/common sense

Incidentally, where did the OP go?
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Old 11-28-2008, 03:50 PM   #42
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Re: Women's self defense/common sense

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Incidentally, where did the OP go?
Not sure if "OP" means "original poster". But, I have been checking up on the thread pretty often and am going to combine most of the advice. Trying to help my girlfriend build some additional muscle strength through lifting. I ordered her "Gift of Fear" off of amazon and will continue stressing situational awareness. I am looking into some self defense classes for her now. I have a decent background in boxing, muay thai, brazillian jiu jitsu, and some krav. I still train BJJ pretty consistently. I have worked on some basic skills in the past and plan on working on that more. Thinking I will walk her through some basic strikes (just throwing a quick kick or punch and running) and just training really basic escapes on the ground.

But, as was said in some of the earlier posts, I really believe that the key is to be aware of your surroundings and not let it get to the point where you need to throw a punch. If it get's to that point, there is a good chance it's already over. Still, you can't always prevent being attacked and hopefully knowing a quick strike combined with a lot of luck will be enough.

Thanks everyone for all the great advice. Hopefully this thread will continue as it's an important topic.

Stay safe.

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Old 11-28-2008, 04:01 PM   #43
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Re: Women's self defense/common sense

It is always much easier to avoid a situation than to survive one.

Prevention is the best medicine.
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Old 11-28-2008, 06:11 PM   #44
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I am looking into some self defense classes for her now.
Please, Please, Please! Don't just send her to a self defense course!

Get her into a solid martial art. Kickboxing, Krava Maga, or a good MMA school.

Self defense courses may be better than nothing, but if she doesn't train regularly the skillset won't be there when she needs it.

Listed in order of my personal preference:
1. Situational Awareness
2. The confidence and bearing which subtley bespeak your ability to throw some bombs. And the training to have a halfway decent chance of pulling it off.
3. Good set of lungs
4. Comfy Shoes
5. Handgun, formal training with it, and a lot of range time.

More is better. If your loved one is not willing to make AT LEAST one of these things a part of her lifestyle: you should gently take her by the hands, look deep into her eyes, tell her how much you love her....

....And ask what she would like on her tombstone.
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Old 11-28-2008, 06:18 PM   #45
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Re: Women's self defense/common sense

And I would like to throw my .02 in about having a male escort.

...If that's the best you can do to take care of yourself, *edit* nevermind, i'm not even going to say it. *edit*

Male or Female, your own a$$ is your own responsibility. Put your time, effort and faith in training and situational awarness. If you've got backup, great. But it is foolish, selfish, and irresponsible for a person to prop another up as their personal shield.

Another person should NEVER be your primary means of defense!
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Old 11-28-2008, 09:17 PM   #46
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Re: Women's self defense/common sense

Although you certainly don't want to be defenseless in the absence of an escort, there are definitely times when safety in numbers/perceived strength is a good idea. A woman walking on her own at night will be a much more likely target than a woman walking with her husband. Attacks can still happen in those cases, of course, but seeking safety in the presence of others is hardly a bad idea.

Be ready for the worst, but try to keep those scenarios as far away from yourself as possible.
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Old 11-28-2008, 09:22 PM   #47
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Not sure if "OP" means "original poster".
Yep. Just making sure something bad hadn't happened to you, like a meteor bombardment or an outbreak of the plague or a Barry Manilow concert. You never know.
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Old 11-29-2008, 07:07 AM   #48
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Re: Women's self defense/common sense

I agree with Chris. I was actually going to say "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure". Are you safer in a tank in a combat zone, or in a convertible in a non-combat zone?

I studied martial arts for something like six years. I was constantly coming home with a lot of bruises, and have 100% confidence that I can avoid any single punch since I've done it many thousands of times.

At the same time, the real world is unpredictable. You don't know when someone might pull out a chain, for example. Have you trained with chains? Really? Full speed, and after they threw sand in your face?

When I talk about logistics, I mean that most crime is not fully random. It tends to happen in certain places, and at certain times, and in certain situations. If you avoid those places, those times, and those situations, your risk goes down.

Think about it like an insurance actuary. Who is at more risk: the person who is fit and well trained in martial arts who is often in the wrong place at the wrong time, or the person who thinks watching sports is exercise, but who exercises caution in all they do?

Now, I understand that most people who would CrossFit would also have trouble accepting those sorts of limits on their behavior, but this is the reality. Predators are usually in groups, and quite often armed. If you add surprise to that, the best training in the world may not be enough.

People that victimize other people have practice in it. In many cases, they have likely been victims themselves, and understand what they are doing.

Personally, I am a firm believer in what we might term the "spidey sense". I truly believe, because I have experienced it many times, that there is something beyond pure sense that warns you when trouble is in the area. Listen to that, wake up, and follow your intuition. That will rarely fail you, in my view. Again, read "Gift of Fear".

I think that's all I have to say about that. It's been a couple years since we last had this discussion.
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Old 11-29-2008, 07:40 AM   #49
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Don't get me wrong folks, I'm not knocking safety in numbers.

This is a very touchy subject, and it is difficult for me to discuss without seeming very harsh.

All I'm saying is that I see a depressing amount of females who's first, last, and only line of defense is someone else.
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Old 11-29-2008, 12:10 PM   #50
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Re: Women's self defense/common sense

I hate to plug my own article, but I recently wrote something on this very topic.

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