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Old 05-19-2010, 12:50 PM   #1
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Oatmeal

I see that many processed grains are frouned upon in both zone and paleo, Where does oatmeal fit into the whole picture?
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:52 PM   #2
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Re: Oatmeal

it's a grain.

if you want to be paleo, don't eat it.

if you don't care about being paleo or not, enjoy.

read this thread: http://board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=52911 (sfw, though some of the behavior turned borderline)
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:06 PM   #3
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Re: Oatmeal

If it contains gluten say goodbye to it, so that means oatmeal. Also, most grains contain anti-nutrients (prevent the absorption of vitamins and minerals), including the non-gluten grains and seeds, and yes, oatmeal.

"A diet high in phytic acid, which is found in the bran of whole grains,
is likely to interfere with calcium absorption. This acid binds to a
variety of minerals including calcium, to form insoluble salts, called
phytates, which are wasted from the body. Probably because grains are a
relatively new food, from an evolutionary perspective, it appears that
we have not yet developed digestive tracts which can break down these
phytates(3). "

http://paleodiet.com/losspts.txt (SAFE)

Although soaking oats may break down some of the phytates, you still have to contend with the gluten and probably lectins.

"Furthermore, cereal grains, legumes and milk contain bioactive substances, such as gluten and casein, which have been implicated in the development of various health problems.[4] Consumption of gluten, a component of certain grains, such as wheat, rye and barley, is known to have adverse health effects in individuals suffering from a range of gluten sensitivities, including coeliac disease. Since the Paleolithic diet is devoid of cereal grains, it is free of gluten. The paleodiet is also casein-free. Casein is a protein found in milk and dairy products, which may impair glucose tolerance in humans.[4]

Compared to Paleolithic food groups, cereal grains and legumes contain high amounts of antinutrients, including alkylresorcinols, alpha-amylase inhibitors, protease inhibitors, lectins and phytates, substances known to interfere with the body's absorption of many key nutrients.[4][82][96] Molecular-mimicking proteins, which are basically made up of strings of amino acids that closely resemble those of another totally different protein, are also found in grains and legumes, as well as milk and dairy products.[4][82][96] Advocates of the Paleolithic diet have argued that these components of agrarian diets promote vitamin and mineral deficiencies and may explain the development of the "diseases of civilization" as well as a number of autoimmune-related diseases.[4][82][96]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoli..._antinutrients (SAFE)
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Re: Oatmeal

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If it contains gluten say goodbye to it, so that means oatmeal. Also, most grains contain anti-nutrients (prevent the absorption of vitamins and minerals), including the non-gluten grains and seeds, and yes, oatmeal.
congrats for writing a lot without actually saying anything. you completely contradicted yourself in your first two sentences, thereby destroying any possible credibility in your later links.
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Old 05-20-2010, 06:54 AM   #5
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Re: Oatmeal

The zone diet allows oatmeal.
The paleo diet does not.

As I follow neither I like me some porridge in the morning, especially with some raisins and walnuts and heavy cream.
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:11 AM   #6
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congrats for writing a lot without actually saying anything. you completely contradicted yourself in your first two sentences, thereby destroying any possible credibility in your later links.
Wow. That seems like an unnecessarily harsh response.
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:49 AM   #7
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Wow. That seems like an unnecessarily harsh response.
The blinding truth usually comes out harsh. Hi Renee!
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The blinding truth usually comes out harsh. Hi Renee!
hah, hi harley!
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congrats for writing a lot without actually saying anything. you completely contradicted yourself in your first two sentences, thereby destroying any possible credibility in your later links.
'Mr. Madison, what you've just said... is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
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