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Old 02-05-2008, 09:36 AM   #1
Chris Williams
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Problems doing the "3rd world squat"...

Hi

It is often mentioned here about the benefits of deep ATG squats, and the damage that squats to parallel or above can do to the knee & hamstrings.

My knee only bends to about 90-100degs because of a bad ACL repair, meaning that i can only really squat to parallel. The surgeon says not to try to increase flexibility as this will further weaken the half torn ACL (which if i understand correctly is what is impeding the knee flexibility, as it was stitched up too tight...does that sound possible??).

So my questions are: 1/ Do you think that squatting to parallel will do me harm? 2/ Do you think that the surgeon's opinion about me not trying to do the "3rd world squat" is correct, or should i work at it?

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Old 02-05-2008, 11:11 AM   #2
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Re: Problems doing the "3rd world squat"...

Paraphrasing Rippetoe SS 2nd Edition -

The correctly performed back squat can be done with no ACL, since a correctly performed back squat puts no stress on the ACL.

I guess this means you can, assuming you can perform squats correctly.
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:19 AM   #3
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Re: Problems doing the "3rd world squat"...

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Paraphrasing Rippetoe SS 2nd Edition -

The correctly performed back squat can be done with no ACL, since a correctly performed back squat puts no stress on the ACL.

I guess this means you can, assuming you can perform squats correctly.
it can be done without an acl but can it be done with a tight acl. in acl reconstruction surgery, if the acl graft is not placed and anchored while the knee is in deep flexion then the ROM will be limited after full healing. if flexion is limited then the depth of the squat will be limited.

so no acl = no flexion constriction
tight acl recon = some to severe flexion constriction
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:14 AM   #4
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Re: Problems doing the "3rd world squat"...

yep, that's exactly my problem, a tight acl, so little flexibility in the knee bend.

So my question is...can i try to work on stretching etc to ease the problem (even though the surgeon recommended not to try to stretch the ligament in case it loosens the knee's stability)?

And if i cannot improve flexibility, is it damaging to do a parallel squat (hamstrings, knee, whatever?). I know ATG better, but if i can't do it, i guess parallel better than nothing?

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