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Old 11-04-2009, 07:17 AM   #1
Joffray Marcantel
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Were "gym dues" ever considered for CF?

Rob Shaul over at Military Athlete (WFS) is going to be implementing "gym dues" because he wants "athletes that contribute back to the gym".

My question is, was it ever considered here to make people pay a monthly or one-time due for the WODs?
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:53 AM   #2
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Re: Were "gym dues" ever considered for CF?

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Rob Shaul over at Military Athlete (WFS) is going to be implementing "gym dues" because he wants "athletes that contribute back to the gym".

My question is, was it ever considered here to make people pay a monthly or one-time due for the WODs?
isn't that the model most affiliates use?
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:42 AM   #3
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Re: Were "gym dues" ever considered for CF?

I believe the OP's question refers to the .com WODs, which are available to anyone for free. Military Athlete is going to begin charging to access the daily workouts on their website.

As far as I know, Coach has never seriously considered this.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:52 AM   #4
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Re: Were "gym dues" ever considered for CF?

Thanks, Larry.
Missed that.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:53 AM   #5
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Re: Were "gym dues" ever considered for CF?

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I believe the OP's question refers to the .com WODs, which are available to anyone for free. Military Athlete is going to begin charging to access the daily workouts on their website.

As far as I know, Coach has never seriously considered this.
I don't think that Coach would move to this. It doesn't fit the business model of CF.

Right now, tons of people use the Main Page workouts to get excited about CF. Then a lot of people will move on to affiliates, which in turn pay to CFHQ for affiliation. If people had to pay for the Main Page workouts, I think less would be inclined to start, which would result in less wanting to go to affiliates, which would result in less affiliates opening, which would result in less money for CFHQ.

Crossfit is all about the "Open Source" model.
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Old 11-04-2009, 05:13 PM   #6
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Re: Were "gym dues" ever considered for CF?

Military Athlete... haven't met a CF affiliate or trainer who has worked with this who thought much of it... especially with a SOF background. Another Former CF trainer gone on his own trying to act like he trained like this before. Came to our unit and wasn't thought a lot of accept for the packaged concept. Technique was abhorant and the attitude toward operators was also disrespectful, though I believe inadvertant.

Telling a bunch of SOF types they are "weak" is not good form and inaccurate especially when your technique in application is poor and your teaching was below par. That is a lot of Silver and Bronze Stars with "V" devices, DSM, and DFCs to stare out at and be cocky.

Not impressed.

good concept, wrong attitude, application, and background.
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:44 AM   #7
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Re: Were "gym dues" ever considered for CF?

The system Coach uses is perfect.

Free WODS = EVERYONE around the world can do them.
And apart from the benefits Lawrence has mentioned you got people signing right left and center for the certifications. 50 peeps at a cert. They fill up like there's no tomorrow. And they in turn open affiliates. Rinse and repeat...
Asking for $$$ for the WODS would also slowly disintegrate the enormous community feeling that surrounds CF, something I've not seen in any other sport/activity/hobby, although my exposure might be to blame for this.

The system is flawless. Even the $25 a year for the CF Journal cannot be bettered, not because of the price, but because of the exceptional information you get for $2 a month.

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Old 11-05-2009, 08:00 AM   #8
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Re: Were "gym dues" ever considered for CF?

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Military Athlete... haven't met a CF affiliate or trainer who has worked with this who thought much of it... especially with a SOF background. Another Former CF trainer gone on his own trying to act like he trained like this before. Came to our unit and wasn't thought a lot of accept for the packaged concept. Technique was abhorant and the attitude toward operators was also disrespectful, though I believe inadvertant.

Telling a bunch of SOF types they are "weak" is not good form and inaccurate especially when your technique in application is poor and your teaching was below par. That is a lot of Silver and Bronze Stars with "V" devices, DSM, and DFCs to stare out at and be cocky.

Not impressed.

good concept, wrong attitude, application, and background.
What does your opinion of MilitaryAthlete's training and methods have to do with the question from the original post about charging for access to website training sessions?
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:06 AM   #9
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Rob Shaul over at Military Athlete (WFS) is going to be implementing "gym dues" because he wants "athletes that contribute back to the gym".

My question is, was it ever considered here to make people pay a monthly or one-time due for the WODs?
I think only Glassman or someone at CFHQ can answer that. But the business model between CF and Rob Shaul's MtnAthlete/MilitaryAthlete are different.

But here's a question to digest: If CFHQ suddenly decided to start charging a fee to access the WODs for the same reason of "wanting athletes that contribute back to the gym", how many would choose to do this?
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:51 AM   #10
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Re: Were "gym dues" ever considered for CF?

"Giving back to the gym" is one thing... if you ATTEND the gym that created the WOD.

But giving money to a webmaster that posts a WOD, and then you must go to your own gym to do the work out, without supervision of the WOD's creator or people knowledgeable enough to assist you through said WOD, is something quite different.

That's why I don't agree with it.
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