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Old 05-08-2012, 10:05 AM   #41
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What are peoples thoughts on Micellar Casein?
Great for bed time snack.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:18 PM   #42
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What are peoples thoughts on Micellar Casein?
It is casein. As a form it really isn't anything special despite what some supp companies might claim. Casein is certainly a good milk protein and imparts unique benefits whey does not provide.
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:57 PM   #43
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Great for bed time snack.
I tend to lean towards peanut butter prior to bedtime.
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:40 PM   #44
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I tend to lean towards peanut butter prior to bedtime.
Not a bad choice either. Although higher in calories less protein. A good mixture of the two would be another good option.
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:51 AM   #45
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I recently bought this in vanilla. I like the fact that it comes from grassfed unpasteurized milk and is sweetened with stevia. I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere in the blogosphere so it may not be anything special, but I like it.

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I recently bought this in vanilla. I like the fact that it comes from grassfed unpasteurized milk and is sweetened with stevia. I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere in the blogosphere so it may not be anything special, but I like it.

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Tricia, I am curious, what do you think the difference in the highly processed milk proteins in a protein powder would be with grass fed vs. not?
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Tricia, I am curious, what do you think the difference in the highly processed milk proteins in a protein powder would be with grass fed vs. not?
Not very different at all. I know the argument for health benefits of grassfed lies in the o3 vs o6 ratios and that is in the fat obviously. So not an issue with protein. For me it is an ethics thing. I don't buy any conventional animal protein other than at restaurants on occasion, so it is nice to have that option in supplementation as well.
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Not very different at all. I know the argument for health benefits of grassfed lies in the o3 vs o6 ratios and that is in the fat obviously. So not an issue with protein. For me it is an ethics thing. I don't buy any conventional animal protein other than at restaurants on occasion, so it is nice to have that option in supplementation as well.
Ok, understood on the morality issue. FYI a lot of whey proteins are derived from grass fed cows.
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Ok, understood on the morality issue. FYI a lot of whey proteins are derived from grass fed cows.
Point or Parliamentary Procedure - The grass-fed thing drives me to distraction. ALL cows are grass fed. The only thing that matters is the cow's diet at the time of slaughter - whether they're finished on a feed lot or taken straight from pasture to slaughter. But there's no such thing as a cow (or heifer or steer) that's birthed, nursed, weaned and grown to 500 or 650 on a feed lot. Even grass finished cows have some dietary component that isn't grass (typically legumes like split peas) to increase protein intake.

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Old 05-09-2012, 08:23 PM   #50
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Point or Parliamentary Procedure - The grass-fed thing drives me to distraction. ALL cows are grass fed. The only thing that matters is the cow's diet at the time of slaughter - whether they're finished on a feed lot or taken straight from pasture to slaughter. But there's no such thing as a cow (or heifer or steer) that's birthed, nursed, weaned and grown to 500 or 650 on a feed lot. Even grass finished cows have some dietary component that isn't grass (typically legumes like split peas) to increase protein intake.

Give the governor harrumph.
<-- raise my own cows

yes they eat grass, yes they eat stuff other than grass. I could pass them off as 'grass' fed (by law) and they would have ate more than just grass...

Few great examples

2 Steer, birthed from sisters & same Bull

Weight @ 1 year 'grass' fed -400-550lbs (wide range over the years, but you get gist).
Weight @ 1 year 'grass' fed with 60-90day Feed supplement before slaughtering 550-700lbs

When I butcher a cow for food for my family we prefer #2 vs #1. The fat makes it tastier I've had 'grass' fed cows before and its not bad, its leaner, but I like my steak with marbling.

Just be careful though on what is considered grass fed. You can get away with a good amount of supplemental feeding.
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