Throwing Knees Pain

[Dwight Stone]

Hey, I 've long perused this board, and I now have a reason to sign up- I have a question.

When I throw a right knee (Thai Style, no clinch), if I do it with any real speed or force- either in the air or into a bag, it hurts right behind my knee in the hinging part of the joint. It's not a muscle pain, I think it's a tendon or ligament thing, not sure. It happens when I go fairly fast and/or high, so I wonder if it might be a flexibility thing?

I was researching it, and the closest description I could find was something called runner's knee. But I don't really run much, and I don't feel it when I do. Just when throwing the knee.

What's up with me?

[Pearse Shields]

I'm not entirely sure. Are you hitting with the right part of the knee? Does it only hurt when the knee lands, or is it also when shadow boxing?

[Dwight Stone]

Shadow boxing as well. Whenever I throw the knee up pretty high and forward (hip thrust), and with decent speed.

[Dwight Stone]

I was messing around a bit and thinking of what you said- is it possible that hitting with the somewhat outside of my knee could cause it to hurt behind, as opposed to hitting it straight on? I sometimes have a tendency to pivot.

[Wayne Riddle]

Originally Posted by Dwight Stone

Shadow boxing as well. Whenever I throw the knee up pretty high and forward (hip thrust), and with decent speed.

My katare instructor alwasy discouraged doing lots of reps, kicking or hitting, shadow boxing. He felt it tended for you to over extend and damage the joints. He feels this is why he needed hip replacement surgery in his 40's.

[Dwight Stone]

Originally Posted by Wayne Riddle

My katare instructor alwasy discouraged doing lots of reps, kicking or hitting, shadow boxing. He felt it tended for you to over extend and damage the joints. He feels this is why he needed hip replacement surgery in his 40's.

Thing is, I haven't thrown that many, and it often happens after one or two. Besides, how can I over extend when throwing a knee, since my knee is very bent when I do so.

(I have, though, experienced this with punches, boxer's elbow sucks, I don't do full power shadow boxing anymore...)

[Wayne Riddle]

Originally Posted by Dwight Stone

Thing is, I haven't thrown that many, and it often happens after one or two. Besides, how can I over extend when throwing a knee, since my knee is very bent when I do so.

Off hand, hard to say. Posting a video might help spot what is going on with the knees.

[Terence Nelan]

I get exactly the same pain in exactly the same place. I think its got to do with my improper technique.

Instead of having the knee deliver force horizontally through the hip thrust, I think I'm delivering the power moving the knee through an upward arc.

Your specific reason may vary, but I think that I'm (alas) doing it wrong.

[Dwight Stone]

Originally Posted by Terence Nelan

I get exactly the same pain in exactly the same place. I think its got to do with my improper technique.

Instead of having the knee deliver force horizontally through the hip thrust, I think I'm delivering the power moving the knee through an upward arc.

Your specific reason may vary, but I think that I'm (alas) doing it wrong.

and i was wondering the exact opposite- if mine was too much hip thrust. but i dont know, and i guess no one else here does either?

[Aarron Cunningham]

Try Stretching out the glutes, QLO and Hip flexor, one of them may be tight and there may be a carry on effect down the rear extensor chain. (Just got out of my chair in the office to throw a knee. Getting some strange looks right now.....)