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Jerry Mobbs
09-17-2006, 11:55 PM
Heres a snatch video

3 with bar only and 3 with weight

Comments greatly appreciated as i'm really struggling to get the technique right.

Every lift feels like a struggle starting with the first pull!

Cheers

Jerry

Jennifer Conlin
09-18-2006, 01:48 AM
I don't remember taking any drugs?!!??!

I'm not sure what your seeing but the movie I was was kinda trippy..whew!

Kenneth Urakawa
09-18-2006, 07:47 AM
Worked for me--have to "save as" a .mov file.

Some impressions:
Back doesn't look to be "set" completely in the start/first pull.

Looks like your hips are coming up early. This is putting your upper body forward on the second pull.

This is leaving the bar forward on the catch. Notice how you are up on your toes, and then muscle the bar back overhead. I'm guessing that with more significant weight, you'll lose it forward.

Hope this gets you started. I'll defer to some of the folks who know more about this stuff now...

Pierre Auge
09-20-2006, 04:55 PM
First things first, your arms are never bending. You are trying to kettlebell swing the bar.

http://www.crossfit.com/discus/messages/13350/30332.jpg

the elbows should be coming high and outside here and the bar should be taveling straight up from the ground not in an arc like you are doing.

http://www.crossfit.com/discus/messages/13350/30333.jpg

this is what the elbows should look like during the pull under.

I'd get more specific but this is the main issue. Check out the videos for the burgener warm-up in the F.A.Q. I highly suggest it.

Jerry Mobbs
09-20-2006, 08:30 PM
pierre,

thanks mate

what you say now makes perfect sense

when i was trying to improve my clean, the big issue there was bending my arms to early

since then i have been concentrating on keeping my arms straight like ropes

i bought this thinking with me when i started trying to learn the snatch

with the broom stick and just the bar, i can get away with it

but put some weight on and my shoulder hurts like !

Q?
i have also been struggling to keep my shoulders up by my ears when the bar is overhead

could this be caused by having this kettlebell type swing?

thanks to everyone who posted

jerry

Allen Yeh
09-22-2006, 03:42 AM
Jerry,

I've taken a look at your video a couple of times and I couldn't figure out what was bugging me until today.

I think your start position is a bit off. Things to emphasize in the start position are "tri-lat-tuck" or another way to think of it is to "break the finger". Stand up straight holding a stick and push your chest out as much as possible kind of like a bodybuilder now tighten your lats and so if someone was to put their finger in your armpit you would be breaking their finger. A side effect of this is it seem like you are trying to snap the stick with your hands. Now stick your chin out like someone is trying to punch you in the jaw.

Something else in your start position though it's hard to tell is that it seems like you are coming forward a bit on your toes in the start position. It may just be the running shoes. I'd recommend either doing these barefoot or with shoes without any cushioning I know some people here like Chuck Taylors, I just use a pair of old wrestling shoes.

Coaching keys that help me remember how I'm suppose to be are:
1. break the finger (if you are doing this well you should already be doing the bodybuilder chest)
2. chin out
3. HEELS!

Do you have the same problem keeping your shoulders in your ears when you overhead squat? or only when you snatch?

Hope this helps.

Lincoln Brigham
09-22-2006, 08:41 AM
Ken's advice is right on.

If you are going to power snatch instead of squat snatch, go right into a overhead squat each time.

Your back is nearly horizontal at the start:
http://www.crossfit.com/discus/messages/13350/30453.jpg
Keep the hips down at the start.

You are bending your arms early, before you finish the pull:
http://www.crossfit.com/discus/messages/13350/30454.jpg
Have more patience before bending the arms. Think of your arms like ropes. Soft, pliable, passive ropes without any muscle.