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Joe Cavazos
03-31-2008, 12:17 AM
I know it's been said that jumping back during Cleans and Snatches is ok as long as you take the bar with you.

What about jumping forward? (http://teamschoolyd.org/schoolyfit/form/clean-165-080330.wmv) (wfs)

The distance jumped only increases when I Snatch.

Does this need to be fixed? If so, how?

Sarena Kopciel
03-31-2008, 04:26 AM
I know it's been said that jumping back during Cleans and Snatches is ok as long as you take the bar with you.

What about jumping forward? (http://teamschoolyd.org/schoolyfit/form/clean-165-080330.wmv) (wfs)

The distance jumped only increases when I Snatch.

Does this need to be fixed? If so, how?
Butt down a bit more , chest up at start and til you transition til about mid thigh, keep bar in close til hips, flik wrists, whip elbows around and get under fast! KEEP BAR CLOSE--it is swinging forward a bit and you are jumping fwd to catch it
check out this video of Aimee Anaya (http://aimeeanaya.com/) from performance menu
http://www.performancemenu.com/resources/exercises/videos/clean.mov

HOpe that makes sense

links wfs

Alexander Kornishev
03-31-2008, 08:51 AM
I am no expert... do you keep your weight on your heels? if you look at your feet in slow mo it looks like you lift your toes during first pull and than shift your weight to the toes during second pull. And as Sarena said, maybe you just keep the bar not close enough and feet follow...

Andrew H. Meador
03-31-2008, 01:04 PM
Plenty of good weightlifters jump forward. It's not "wrong". Keep in mind that the best weightlifters, the ones who devote their lives to the sport, are short and thick and therefore the lifts will work slightly differently for those of us who aren't 5'7" 230 lbs.

Guest
03-31-2008, 04:05 PM
Plenty of good weightlifters jump forward. It's not "wrong". Keep in mind that the best weightlifters, the ones who devote their lives to the sport, are short and thick and therefore the lifts will work slightly differently for those of us who aren't 5'7" 230 lbs.

Actually very few high level lifters jump forward. I can think of 1 off the top of my head. Jumping forward is indicative of a number of potential problems and itself creates difficulty receiving the weight. It's nothing like jumping back.

Where the balance of the system is over the foot is not the same as where the pressure is - that is, you can maintain (and should) the center of mass over teh foot just in front of the heel even if up on your toes (only while moving of course - you can't do this in a static position).

So if you're jumping forward, the weight of the bar-you system is too far forward at some point for some reason - there are a number of possibilities. Most likely is that at the top of your extension, you're straight up and down when you need to actually be inclined backward slightly. Think of what position you have to be in at the top of a heavy deadlift to remain balanced - leaned back slightly. Same thing with a snatch or a clean, except that with the added speed and the brief separation from the floor, shifts in weight will have more influence on your position.

Andrew H. Meador
04-01-2008, 12:56 AM
I'm not going to argue with Greg about anything weightlifting related, but let me say that all elite lifters share a body type, and I've noticed that taller people tend to jump forward more than shorter people do. I learned not to jump forward by simply adding more and more weight to the bar, and this forced me to get the form right. Kind of an old school way of thinking about it, but it worked. This is a separate issue from the original poster anyway, so suffice it to say that you should heed Greg's advice.

Jason M Struck
04-03-2008, 07:06 AM
rebuilding Aimee video is amazing.

Joe Cavazos
04-03-2008, 07:30 AM
Thanks for the help, guys. I'll try to get to fuller extension on the second pull next time.